God Bless! You spelt it out..clearly. Adam’s disobedience was not the problem but a symptom of a deeper problem, which is that he did not trust God. “By introducing uncertainty…” That’s it- the only condition that makes trust necessary. funny – was just reading this today… the serpent was the most crafty, subtle, and prudent of the beasts of the field (gen 3:1) – he had been observing them… “Having read my little rant you may think that I am against obedience. . In Genesis 2:16,17 it is recorded that God commanded the man, saying Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest therof thou shalt surely die. Loved this article. The Israelites couldn’t do it and neither can you. Sometimes, however, these conflicts are more than occasional disturbances and become a pattern for how parents and children interact. I dont always agree with everything in your writings, Paul Ellis, but i do like the angle of this post, disobedience indeed is rooted in mistrust, i think christians across all different doctrines and beliefs should have a read, this is up there with your best blogs. I think we're saved by Doctrine. I realise its about drawing a clear line in your heart. I can obey someone I also do not fully trust. If God our Father wants complete obedience to His commands, then what was the purpose of God sending His Son Jesus to die a horrible death on the cross for our sins? What I presented was certainly a caricature, yet I’d bet good money that obedience is most typically taught from the basis of carrots and sticks rather than trust. Well, if your flesh is strong, you may be singled out as a walking-talking Christian success story. Here are Adam’s questions: Adam was in the dark and that was the whole point. If they had trusted him they would have lived. We are still given the same choice as. This is so obviously true that people have trouble believing it. It’s our responsibility as parents to establish those healthy expectations for our child from very early on. Amen and amen!” Thank God someone kept all the rules and fulfilled them totally so that we can live forever in unbroken fellowship with Him without fear – Honestly can’t think of any better news than this!! Casting lots was connected with idolatry. Take heed to doctrine and in so doing we'll "rescue" those who we talk to and ourselves. That certainly doesn’t mean that God doesn’t want us to listen to his wise counsel and remain within the safe boundaries he’s shared with us. great article paul! Eating the fruit was disobeying the one law and this could be easily corrected with punishment, pride and lack of trust not so easy. For many years, my answer to that question was: “Adam disobeyed.” That seems simple enough doesn’t it? If your child repeatedly forgets to turn in their homework resulting in poor grades, you must have already established consequences set in advance. We should be aware of this surprising causes of child disobedience. Like I said earlier, all children disobey. 1. It also turns your power over to your child. Successful acts serve as inspiration as do failed civil disobedience examples. Many individuals and groups use acts of civil disobedience to challenge modern human rights concerns, such as student loan debt, racially motivated killings, and climate change. God, just tell us what to do and we’ll do it, God is not judging me according to my obedience, old covenant preacher will use carrots and sticks, Why the Woman of Proverbs 31 may not be your Ideal Wife, Last chance to get your name in Paul’s book, First look at Paul’s new book (and how to get your name in it! Through his actions he was saying, “God, I’m better off without you.”. I promise. Trust is pure vulnerability based on your belief that the other person loves you and would never intentionally cause you pain. Aw Thank you for leaving your kind words! Enoch saved by grace. To be in agreement with God is to be in a position of power in Christ. But certainty about God’s nature and ability makes other areas of uncertainty irrelevant. [if you cant win them with the truth,baffle them with your BS]…..something to that effect . When you know how much your Father loves you and longs to be good to you, he is easy to trust. Also, if your child is under another type of stress like academic pressure or too many high-stress activities they may feel the need to blow off steam which often looks like getting into trouble. I would have kept this to myself, otherwise. Now this all begs the question what did God want us to see in this woman he took out of us.Or what needed to be corrected so that she could be put back, our attitudes changed, enabling us to live in perfect harmony with her and God as one. Saved always saved? Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. I’m going to stop now,Im running out of excuses. Will we live dependent upon Him or will we try to elevate ourselves to a god of our own making? Awesome ! (2)    It’s the Israelites saying, “God, just tell us what to do and we’ll do it” (Ex 19:8). I’ve got person who desperately needs this. I am not. But God gave us His covering, warm soft comfortable animal skin (Jesus) even back in the Garden? After they draw straws (cast lots) to determine WHO is the cause of this great calamity and after they get Jonah awake (vv. It is not mentioned as a measure of love for God or evidence of a relationship with God. Just make positive changes in the right direction every day and you’ll see the difference! Post was not sent - check your email addresses! The ultimate certainty that God wants us to know is that He is love. Occasionally telling your kid why you need them to do something doesn’t make you a weak parent. But if your flesh is weak, you’ll be shackled with guilt and condemnation. Thank you for inviting a response from the ladies. And the wages of sin is death. His blood later revealed its nature crying out for revenge. I can issue orders to people I do not really trust. The Root Cause of All Problems: Disobedience At the present moment in the Gaudiya Vaisnava Sampradaya there are a growing number of issues that indicate the breakup of the Sampradaya into a disparate array of sects. Purchasing online its not effective here because its difficult to get credit cards. “The string was: “that God has chosen him.” The whispering thought that God had chosen him and therefore must love him paved the path he eventually walk on to come back to a strong faith and relationship with the Lord. Dependant. What a great article. It’s arrogant to say you’re better than others. You take the worst of preaching and cultish teaching and you generalize across the Christian spectrum….you can’t do that. Right there is your standard sermon on obedience. I can’t help echoing what others have already said, but ‘self blessification’ haha brilliant…and ‘pack your bags we’re going on a flesh trip’ and ‘trust God or die trying’, you need to put some of those slogans on mugs, because I would buy the whole lot! Rom 5:10, His life being His resurrection, we know it's FINISHED because He was raised. What it does mean is that it’s a heart issue, not an obedience issue, and he wants our trust and thoughtful, considered cooperation, not our fear driven, mindless obedience. Learn how your comment data is processed. But there are some principles that have no wiggle room, such as forgiveness. Kids are the same. They would’ve said, “God remember your covenant with our father Abraham and bless us.” Instead they basically said, “God we don’t believe your promises to Abraham – tell us how we can bless ourselves.” And God gave them what they asked for – lots of rules for self-blessification. Another awwwwesome post! Two actors, posing as other subjects to shock the victim, were introduced. Would ask for your blessing to use it, but I already blessed myself. “How can God bless a disobedient Christian?” The civil disobedient, finding legitimate avenues of change blocked or nonexistent, feels obligated by a higher, extralegal principle to break some specific law. Please read Romans and it will explain that we are no longer under the Old Law works, works, works, But we are under Grace, The New Covenant. The fact is when we disobey we often take the “it’s justified” stance based on our circumstances at the moment. We don’t yell and lose our cool at work or other places when people irritate us because we have self-control. What dont you agree with? However Abraham was a bit like us and thought there must be some limitations to God’s willingness and ability to save when surrounded by sin. ), Submission doesn’t mean what you think it means, 6 awesome things that will happen when Christ returns. We forget that they have been greater empires in history before us: African empires, ancient empires like Persian empire, Babylonian, Greek, Roman, British, Russian, and now American empire. Try as we might we simply weren’t designed to cope with all that life throws at us. He has done all things well! Help these good news messages reach more by supporting us via Patreon (USD) or Donorbox (other currencies). Taken together, the meaning of what is now translated obey in the original text of the Bible is more accurately read ‘listen to, thoughtfully consider, and respond to.’ That is a far, far different meaning then the ‘instant obedience’ often held up as the epitome of Christian faith and evidence of love for God and, by extension, the goal of so called ‘Biblical parenting.’. You’ve been spending time lately teaching her how to put away her toys when she’s done. What’s missing? Peace. Speech On Civil Disobedience. That sounds like the love of God hinges on my perfect obedience and, to be honest, I am not perfectly obedient. This was soooooo good. Relationship and connection with our children should be at the top of our priorities as parents. The way how parents educating & bringing up their children e.g. But there are days when my toddler wants to wear his Spiderman PJ’s or my daughter doesn’t want to eat what I cooked for dinner. If the above is true it should change your perceptions of everything up until the giving of the Law, and even after that. You could say Jesus,s real death was at his birth life born into death. Part of good parenting is establishing those healthy boundaries we talked about. Goodness. In the Bible we can see sickness, pestilence, blindness, madness. That being said he has never made one rule I had to follow. Redemption is not "justification", and neither are salvation. The revolutionaries were not sitting idle. What does it look like to distrust God? I don’t know, its a tough one, he is only God after all….. but if i were to hazard a guess, it would probably be the same way Jesus did with Peter after he denied him three times. I see the metaphor in the Garden. Great post Paul, looking forward to the next one already! Sometimes, humans don’t reflect on past events in history. I pick my battles and live to fight another day. We obey becasue out of our Love for Him, for He loved us first before we loved HIm. Many people nowadays think this grace message is “new” they deride anything they believe is “old” because it’s not the “new grace message.” Truth be told many good churches have had it right for many years. To speak of trust or faith apart from divine commands is utterly impossible. This displayed on the cross. He becomes a man. Posted on March 21, 2013 by Paul Ellis // 74 Comments, “Adam disobeyed God and suffered the consequences. So the fig leaves were Adam and Eve’s (which really is ours cuz if we were really honest we would admit we would have done the same thing as they did too) OUR WORKS/LAW to cover ourselves and at best it was prickly and uncomfortable (no peace). Come back to our Father who’s love has not changed because we distrusted, and disobeyed. But they chose to distrust and reaped the consequences of their choice. It really divided the flesh from the spirit for me. The latter is easy to fall into if you still have fear in your life and religion. Obedience/Disobedience. | 7,946 … You must’ve been raised in a grace-filled environment to have had such an experience Doug. This really gets to the heart of the matter, doesn’t it. I get it! I must commend you paul, I am finally taking the time to look through the web site,I dont believe there isnt much that you havent covered, like i have said before,I must have some grace everyday, lest I forget,have you considered putting it on paper,or should I say volumes………….ps, theological jargon reminds me of a old saying………. But, for arguments sake, and i’ll use myself as an example, what if i don’t forgive the man who killed my wife? Copyright Policy And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began. Let’s face it, as adults we LOVE explanations. Indeed the devil’s goal is to foster and maintain our distrust of our loving heavenly Father. Using fiery rhetoric and chopped up scriptures he will whip you into an emotional frenzy of promising-making. It can even be because of the fear of death. If we are not merciful, we will not be shown mercy. I love it. I will ask a simple question: How can God bless a disobedient Christian? At times, it is due to unreasonable parental expectations. Young leaders of the Congress became impatient for a movement. ok depending on what you mean by [reaping consequences],I guess what I was saying was the same thing,what I was saying in short is, I obey because I love him,and knowing there will be no reaping consequences from him, but sometimes from a unfortunate choice I made causes me to love,trust,etc and knowing he may discipline me,but will work all things for his and my benefit. Let’s say you called your 4 year oldto dinner and they didn’t come downstairs. Hi Earl Even though God shows mercy in sending his Son to redeem humanity and bring good out of the Fall, he still causes endless misery for the sake of one piece of fruit, and he shows no mercy at all in punishing Satan. Resisting the king’s laws eventually earns her death, but she prefers that over going against her own conscie… In Zinn’s book A People’s History Of the United States, and in history, there are many cases of atrocities that involve disobedience and not obedience. The Berean: Daily Verse and Comment. To get to the heart of this obedience issue we need to go back to the Garden of Eden. Great post Paul. Growing up I never thought about it as grace vs law, just that God loved me. My view is that Adam played a role in Eve’s deception. Curses from Disobedience and Sin . This can be just talking and asking questions or doing fun activities together. If a woman can’t be a husband, she can’t be a pastor, right? By introducing uncertainty into their world, he was inviting them to a relationship of dependence on him. Indeed, they would’ve had abundant life. The Gospel in Twenty Questions Self-control. I was "saved" from a headache today by tylenol. IN THE DAY that you eat of it you will die. And how much mercy is even enough mercy? Parakouo – to close one’s ears to; to ignore. They are doing their level best to obey all the rules in the Bible but the sad fact is they don’t trust God. However, when our kids disobey we assume that our kid is acting out. You are carnal and after picking a fight I don’t think immediately after that you can render forgiveness. You are the parent. Law came later. If your child doesn’t have clear expectations or boundaries as it relates to his behavior he will consequently spend much of his time testing those boundaries. Everything he had came from God. We need Him. God told Adam not to eat; Adam ate. Hi John. Adam rejected God. Is it Jesus plus our forgiveness, our mercy etc? Love Paul’s blogs!! It’s much easier to spend your moments teaching and modeling proper behavior, even ad nauseam, than it is to spend your days constantly correcting the wrong ones. Blessings. What happens next? Did you know, in fact, that the word obey doesn’t even appear in the original texts of the Bible? We do have a licensee who has just started printing books in East Africa, but that’s a long way from Ghana. It’s not even the right story. If it was there would have been no need for the ten commandments. It’s as if we were still under the old law-keeping covenant. Modern Acts of Civil Disobedience. Sounds scary. To really be able to trust someone you must REALLY know THEM. the Law of Faith. Faithfulness. A new post in the Eternal Security Series! Frustration meter suddenly plummets and you feel terrible for getting upset. Some take it too far to mean that obedience to rules and regulations are necessary for blessings; while others, as Paul has, state that disobedience is not a factor in judgment. Stuff Jesus Never Said, Comment Policy And once we’ve accepted we’re forgiven, thats it, we stay forgiven. What I am against is flesh-powered Christianity, which is what obedience usually smells like. Sign up for The Berean: Daily Verse and Comment, and have Biblical truth delivered to your inbox.This daily newsletter provides a starting point for personal study, and gives valuable insight into the verses that make up the Word of God. However, when there’s a lack of trust or connection this can lead to a child acting out. out of the few commandments Jesus left us love one another,and love they neighbor as yourself. Sin is saying “we don’t need you”. Now the preacher of insecurity has you right where he wants you – sitting on the edge of your seat in mortal terror ready to swallow whatever list of instructions he has for you today. Thanks Paul. Go and sin no more.” NO CONDEMNATION is what empowers us to go and sin no more because it allows us to COME BACK! Disobedience can have a variety of causes. Heb 5:8-9 “Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from the things which He suffered. Influenced by social media, Internet, TV, current trends, styles etc. yeah… i was laughin… bc someday “self-blessification” is gonna be on someone’s “top 20 paul ellis quotes” Your ministry has GREATLY blessed me. If there is tension in the home because of constant fighting or maybe financial pressures that spill over into your child’s world, they can internalize this as stress causing them to act out. Maybe Adam loved her so much he could not bear to live without her, after all being alone with God was not enough he needed a helper, A good exposé with one CRITICAL element missing in my inexpert opinion. There is nothing that we can do to merit Gods favor? Raising our four children I often think of the hymn, “Trust and Obey.” The refrain says, “Trust and obey, for there’s no other way, to be happy in Jesus, than to trust and obey.” Our 4-year-old knows these lyrics well, as he’s often reminded, “If you disobey then there will be a … God Bless! Paul, I guess I was raised more in a grace enviroment …in the sense I never felt like I lost God’s love even when I wasn’t living right. We need to hear this again and again and again. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. How to Respond When Your Child Disobeys on Purpose. Enoch is a example of this he was saved by relationship not law there is no indication that he was a good man only that he walked with God. When dealing with a disobedient child we should be focused on finding solutions as to why the disobedience is happening in the first place. Do you believe in a God who would condemn me based on that one act of unforgiveness? If you feel that you aren’t as connected as you once were with your child, try setting aside a small amount of time every day to have one on one time together. It is no longer about what we can do for God to earn His merit, commands, His Trust. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. There’s a need built into children to want to please and obey their parents just as we have the same need to put a smile on our child’s face. It seems Adam!s disobedience is rooted in his lack of trust that his Loving Father had indeed provided everything that Adam could ever require for his complete welfare with nothing missing!! Here is a scary thought guys , maybe Jesus said that it is better not to be married because you can not enter Heaven without being in perfect harmony with your wife.Work that out with fear and trembling. When someone feels as if a specific right of theirs is being trampled upon, then they join up with others who feel the same way to do something about the issue. In Milton’s universe there is no question about punishment for disobedience and revolt. About casting lots: civil disobedience has been observed in some form or other... Relationship with God no longer about what we were not capable of doing he not... 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